“All we want from the President [Zelensky] is to say, I am gonna put an trustworthy prosecutor in cost, he is gonna examine and dig up the proof, that presently exists and is there some other proof about involvement of the 2016 election, after which the Biden factor must be run out,” Giuliani tells Yermak on the decision. “Any individual in Ukraine’s gotta take that severely.”
That is the “quid.” Then got here the “professional quo.” Once more, Giuliani:
“That may clear the air rather well. And I believe it might make it attainable for me to return and make it attainable, I believe, for me to speak to the President (Trump) to see what I can do about ensuring that no matter misunderstandings are put apart … I kinda assume that this could possibly be a great factor for having a a lot better relationship.”
Yermak would REALLY should be clueless to not get the message there, proper? Give Giuliani (and Trump) one thing they need and Zelensky can have a greater probability of getting what he desires. Additionally, it is value remembering that the factor that Giuliani and Trump needed was the general public announcement of an investigation into the actions of Joe and Hunter Biden in Ukraine. They usually needed that public investigation as a result of they noticed Biden because the probably Democratic nominee within the 2020 election.
1. Trump, after congratulating Zelensky on his win, in a short time establishes that the US has been very, excellent to Ukraine. “I’ll say that we do quite a bit for Ukraine. We spend a number of effort and a number of time. Rather more than the European international locations are doing and they need to be serving to you greater than they’re.”
2. He then makes clear that the US does much more for Ukraine than Ukraine does for the US.
“I would not say that it is reciprocal essentially as a result of issues are taking place that aren’t good however the US has been very, excellent to Ukraine.”
3. Trump immediately asks Zelensky to analyze Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.
“There’s a number of speak about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and lots of people need to discover out about that so no matter you are able to do with the Lawyer Normal can be nice. Biden went round bragging that he stopped the prosecution so when you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”
4. He means that Zelensky ought to speak to his private lawyer Rudy Giuliani and Lawyer Normal Invoice Barr.
“I’ll have Mr. Giuliani provide you with a name and I’m additionally going to have Lawyer Normal Barr name and we are going to unravel it.”
5. After which Trump reiterates that suggestion
“I’ll inform Rudy and Lawyer Normal Barr to name.”
All of which was dangerous sufficient! Once more, he acquired impeached — admittedly by a Democratic-controlled Home — over that decision!
However what the total audio of Giuliani’s name with Yermak reveals is that there was NO CHANCE that Zelensky did not know earlier than he spoke with Trump a) what Trump needed and b) what the Ukrainian president may hope to get for giving it to him.
That floor had already been tilled — and re-tilled — by Giuliani on the decision with Yermak earlier within the month. The ask and the stakes of the ask have been crystal clear. It’s actually unimaginable to assume that both Trump or Zelensky did not know precisely why the decision was taking place and what was anticipated.
So, yeah. We knew the decision wasn’t “excellent.” However how imperfect it really was got here right into a razor-sharp focus with the audio of the Giuliani name.